This discussion pertained to my book series Cain as Serpents Seed of Satan which is now available from CreateSpace as a paperback (which is better for me as an author) and Amazon if you want a Kindle ebook version or want to shop at Amazon for the paperback.
I posted some of the discussion below:
Hereinafter are some of the comments posted to Doug’s original video—and I was reminded of why I hardly ever spend any time in YouTube comment sections. In fact, I noted that Doug originally titled the video “” but changed it to “Exposing the False Teaching of the Serpents Seed -The Awakening Report w/ Douglas Hamp” because even though we spoke against the serpent seed theory the entire interview, some people thought that we were agreeing with it or that he was not but I was.
For the record – Ken (and I) do NOT believe Satan had sexual relations with Eve. We do NOT believe in the Serpent’s seed theory.
Whether or not who believes what you are confusing christians and others as this is not biblical, you obviously know that Ken does believe that as your response was ” whoa” when he made that ridiculous statement !!! REPENT, REPENT, YOU ARE TEACHING AND PROMOTING HERESY
What are you talking about? We are exposing a silly unbiblical doctrine. For someone who had nothing to say when we debated, you sure like to be a paper tiger in the comment section.
Doug, please tell me that Peterthepiper’s comment is some sort of twisted joke. I spoke again the theory for over an hour and have written five volumes against it and that results in “Ken does believe” it? Oi vey!
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It is biblical. You just disagree. Cain isn’t the pure son of Adam. Like how it says in Genesis 5 1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
Cain and Able are not mentioned for a reason because as it says they were not “in his own image” and “after his own likeness”
Friend, if the Bible “says they were not ‘in his own image’ and ‘after his own likeness’” please provide the citation. I would imagine that you are taking the statement made when Seth was born, which seems to only stated that Seth looked like Adam, and turning that into a statement about or against Cain and Abel (why do you claim that Abel is not Adam’s pure son?) but that is not only reading that into the text but is making you force an overarching and unnecessary theory into the text. My fourth child looks like me more than my first three but that does not mean that the first three as not my pure children.
In REV 22 the tree of life appears again as a literal tree.
Most well put indeed. In fact, if this was all about Eve having sex with Satan then why, when the Bible touches upon this original sin, does it blame Adam?
Sadly, the subtext of the theory is to cause division since serpent seed theorists place themselves in the Sethite line and whoever they personally dislike in the Cainite line.
Think of how porn, promiscuity destroyed this country. So sex is very dangerous outside of marriage. I notice that slave owners always sexually abuse their slaves thus keeping them in bondage for centuries. I notice that people who fight slavery are always against sexual immorality.
Most interesting point, friend, Satan always copies and corrupts that which God does by turning it upside down, inside out and backwards. And speaking of backwards: this is just food for thought which may mean nothing but if you look at the Greek letters that make up the number 666 they look a bit like the English XES which, of course, is backward for SEX—and that’s all I gotta say about that ;o)
We today say, “Another one bite’s the dust.” Or, “He bit the dust…” We refer to failure… Humbling… There is some carry over.
Indeed, now we know that such common parlance has a biblical context.
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The Bible (KJV) account in Genesis 3, DOES NOT imply that Eve had sex with the serpent. Ken Ammi is flat-out wrong and this lie is presented over & over & over from various sources; but the origin is the doctrine of devils. The carnal mind is the enemy of God and this carnal theory/theology is the enemy of the Gospel of Jesus Christ! God does not need euphemisms; He states plainly whatever he wants to say; he presents it in a graceful way, but He says what he wants to say! So, “What is the Serpents Seed?” I’m going to answer this without writing a book. First the two trees are literal trees and out of the ground (Gen 2:9); the tree of life is reserved in midst of paradise (Rev 2:7). We know there are two seeds; of the serpent (anti-christ) and of the woman (Christ). It’s easy to conclude that this is genetic in nature; but genetics is only a medium. To know what a seed is, Christ gives the answer in Luke 8:11; “the seed is the word of God”! In John chapter one we know the Word was: with God & was God and the Word was made flesh. The seed of God is Christ and His Word; therefore the seed of Satan is the anti-christ and his words. Intrinsically the seed is the information, the medium used is secondary. God’s Word is Truth; Satan’s word is a lie. Again Ken Ammi is wrong, genetics is the medium for the information. Which is why you must be born of water and of the Spirit (John 3:5) and the information can only come from above; like Jesus was born from above! If the information had not been corrupted; then the corrective code would not be needed (i.e. Salvation) Doug feel free to contact me Min. G. L. Harden I would be glad to give a counter-argument to Ken’s doctrine that somehow the Word of God is wrong; I was waiting for you to shut Ken down, but it never happen.
Friend, I spent over an hour with Doug pointing out who dead wrong the serpent see theory is: it is un-, non- and anti-biblical. Also, I wrote a five volume set of book proving that it is wrong from every conceivable angle. I cannot even imagine how you could conclude that I hold to that theory.
when God spoke to Cain, Gen 4:6,7 it sounded as if Cain conceivably could have changed his attitude and been accepted by God. meaning he was redeemable. The offspring of all the other angels were not redeemable.
Well, what happened with Cain and what happened with Angels are two different issues. But yes, you are correct in that “Cain conceivably could have changed…” As I noted through the discussion: the biblical “lines” are not genetic but based on actions and/or on faith or lack thereof.
There were 2 named trees in the garden ; the tree of knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life. From what this guy is saying are we to assume that when God took away the tree of life that he took away another potential sex partner. Not trying to be funny but this goes against his argument.
You are implying that I hold to the serpent seed theory but I spoke against it for over an hour and have written a five volume set of books against it. Also, many trees are mentioned, two by “name”: “out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil…Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But…” So the problem for serpent seed theorists is that if they want to demand that the tree of knowledge of good and evil is a “person” then the tree of life must be also as well as “every tree.”
when the fallen angels mated with women it produced giants. one would think that the same would have happened if satan mated with Eve. Those nephelim were also not redeemable. So are the pharasies that Jesus called sons of the devil redeemable? How many generations down the line would be non redeemable?
Actually, “when the fallen angels mated with women it produced” Nephilim and we have no indication that they were “giants” (a term, in any case, which only means taller than the average). Yes, “the pharasies that Jesus called sons of the devil” are redeemable because Jesus was not speaking about genetics but about actions and they could always have changed their actions. I specifically spoke about John 8 during the interview: Jesus affirms that they were of Abraham’s see (genetically) but where of “your father the devil” due to the things they were doing (actions).
Doug, what’s your thoughts on Zen Garcia’s work? I would love to see you guys on each other’s show
As an FYI: Zen and I interacted on the issue of the serpent seed extensively and so Vol. II of my series against the theory is about his claims. Here are the links to the books: https://www.createspace.com/pub/simplesitesearch.search.do?sitesearch_qu… (for paperbacks) and https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&fi… (for paperback of Kindle)
Food for the soul, Can you answer these questions, Adam and Eve was tested in the garden of Eden with the tree of knowledge of good and evil. (1) How long was the test for, (2) When did they fail the test. (3) How many days are left in the test that as born again believers we must complete in this life? All the answers are found in the kjv 1611 Bible.
Most interesting, could you please post the kjv 1611 answers to those questions?
YOU DO REALIZE THAT PASTORS HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CHURCH IN THE BODY OF CHRIST FOR WHAT YOU TEACH OR ALLOW TO BE TAUGHT! YOU ARE SHAPING PEOPLES MINDS DOUG BY ALLOWING NON SPIRIT FILLED CHRISTIANS WITH THE CRAP THAT YOU AND THIS GUY ARE PEDDALING, YOU ARE ADDING TO THE WORD OF GOD AND WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE DOUG, AT MINIMUM YOU MUST BRING THIS TO THE LORD AS THIS IS ONCE AGAIN HERESY AND BLASPHEMY AND YOU KNOW IT!! SATAN HAD SEX WITH EVE!!!!!!!! COME ON MAN, BROTHER DOUG, PUT AWAY YOUR PRIDE AND GET AWAY FROM THIS HERESY NEPHILIM CRAP, DEBATE THIS WITH CHRISTIANS NOT PROFESSING CHRISTIANS
Friend, you also will be accountable for calling good evil and evil good since Doug and I agree that the serpent seed doctrine is false but you claim that I believe it is true. Moreover, based on your own misunderstanding you conclude that I am not Spirit filled and am merely a professing Christian. Please repent.
after watching this I’m confused! i’m not sure if a specific point was made about eve having sex with Satan, yes, no i’m not sure if Doug agrees or disagrees, with most people he doesn’t agree with he makes it obvious and will dispute the person’s claim!
Both Doug and I utter disagree with the serpent seed theory and both of us agree that Eve DID NOT have sex with Satan.
Well, only the bloodline from Seth has survived right? Noah and the flood?
Well, we do not have genealogies of Noah’s wife nor their children’s wives but that is not relevant as the fact is that no one at any time, way, shape or form had Satanic genetics.
Doug Hamp, When you take your own ideas on how GOD made the earth and people or anything that He made by His Spirit. We have a carnal mind and fleshly desires that we live by, You and anybody that looks for truth by reading a book or books or lies will just keep falling away from the truth. But i will say this how can anybody say they believe in GOD and they do not believe people are not lead by the Holy Spirit today or even the ones that wrote the Bible. Nobody can understand the Bible until they are born again by the Spirit of GOD, But i will tell every one who has the wisdom of GOD what the seed of the serpent is, It is the lies that you allow Satan seed to be put into your minds. The seed of the woman is word that was made flesh and died for us and that is JESUS. All things start in the mind of the soul but if you do well you can rule over it,Buy if don’t do well then sin lies at the door of your mind and if you open it up then Satan will plant his seed of evil lies to make you feel better about what bad thing you want to do. All the answers these two guys are saying are from the carnal mind and is the wisdom of man and not of GOD.
Well, Doug and I agree that “the seed of the serpent” theory consists of “lies that you allow Satan seed to be put into your minds.”
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