BC and other blind-sided liberals will often try to point out to me that the majority believes this and the majority believes that!
Wouldn’t it be interesting if we used that ludicrous kind of “voting” on facts through the ages? How many times have the majority been wrong?
Now I have not researched this right now. I am going from memory. So I stand to be corrected by FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
Was the Majority Right?
[Groupthink according to Wikipedia is: “a psychological phenomenon that occurs within groups of people….
Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative ideas and viewpoints.” There are important cases in history where groupthink played a material role such as in Pearl Harbor and the Bay of Pigs.]
Interesting Quotes About GroupThink
Quotes About Majority
“I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science.
I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks.
Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.
Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus.
Consensus is the business of politics.
Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results.
The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.”
― Michael Crichton
“…a minority is only thought of as a minority if it constitutes some kind of threat to the majority, real or imaginary. And no threat is ever quite imaginary…Just ask yourselves: what would this particular minority do if it suddenly became the majority, overnight?
‘All right – now along come the liberals – including everybody in the room, I trust – and they say, ‘minorities are just people, like us ‘. Sure, minorities are people, just like us’. Sure, minorities are people; people , not angels. Sure, they’re like us – but not exactly like us; that’s the all-too-familiar state of liberal hysteria, in which you begin to kid yourself you honestly cannot see a difference between a Negro and a Swede -‘
(Why, oh why daren’t George say ‘between Estelle Oxford and Buddy Sorensen’? Maybe, if he did dare, there would be a great atomic blast of laughter, and everybody would embrace, and the kingdom of heaven would begin, right here in the classroom 278. But then, again, maybe it wouldn’t.)
‘So,let’s face it, minorities are people who probably look and act and think differently from us, and have faults we don’t have. We may dislike the way they look and act, and we may hate their faults. And it’s better if we admit to disliking and hating them, than if we try to smear out feelings over with pseudo-liberal sentimentality. If we’re frank about our feelings, we have a safety-valve; and if we have a safety-valve, we’re actually less likely to start persecuting…”
― Christopher Isherwood , A Single Man
Preventing Some Mistakes by GroupThinkers
“How do you protect against groupthink? I think you simply ask yourself two questions trying to be as impartial as possible:
- Ask yourself – could the dissenting opinion be right? Listen to and fully understand the point of view of the person expressing a dissenting opinion, especially if that person is the sole voice in the room. Fully consider their point of view as it may very well be the right one. Give it weight in your mind.
- Ask yourself – could your majority opinion be wrong? Have you arrived at your opinion without sufficient critical analysis? Are you basing your position on assumptions that you presume to be true, but that perhaps are not sufficiently tested or researched? Be humble, don’t think too highly of your own point of view.
Until you’ve understood how your majority opinion could be wrong, you should strongly question whether your opinion is right. Until you’ve understood how a dissenting opinion could be right, you should strongly question whether it is wrong. A great and simple test is whether you can argue both the majority and dissenting opinion well – irrespective of which one you hold.”
Quotations You May Never Have Heard
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
― Thomas Jefferson
“I don’t imagine you will dispute the fact that at present the stupid people are in an absolutely overwhelming majority all the world over.”
― Henrik Ibsen
“The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widely spread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.”
― Bertrand Russell, Marriage and Morals
“In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place.”
(Young India, August 4, 1920)”
“Revolution is a spectators sport. The majority will sit in the stands and watch the factions fight. At the end they will choose side with the team that is winning. ”
― George Lincoln Rockwell
“Of course, the aim of a constitutional democracy is to safeguard the rights of the minority and avoid the tyranny of the majority. (p. 102)”
― Cornel West, Race Matters
[In 2017 it is the TYRANNY OF MINORITIES WHICH HAVE THEIR FOOT SQUARELY ON THE THROAT OF MAJORITIES AND MOST PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN REALIZE IT!] – Editor
“I would remind you to notice where the claim of consensus is invoked. Consensus is invoked only in situations where the science is not solid enough. Nobody says the consensus of scientists agrees that E=mc2. Nobody says the consensus is that the sun is 93 million miles away. It would never occur to anyone to speak that way.”
― Michael Crichton
“When most of the greatest individuals in history were misunderstood and you’ve spent so much of your own adult life misunderstood, you can’t help but believe that the majority of people know very little worth knowing.”
― Criss Jami
“Mediocrity instills upon you once you begin justifying your lack of excellence by comparing yourself to the majority.”
So it looks like according to these noted individuals that if you are NOT in the majority, you may be on to something!
– C Pedley
One is a freethinker insomuch as one actually thinks. Thinking involves looking at both sides of issues and understanding each side.” – CP
Which side would you rather have been on BC, the side that rode the Titanic, or the ones that did not?
Extreme liberalism, socialism, communism, fascism are all very similar. They are right and everyone else is wrong. The reason they think that is because they associate ONLY with other liberals, socialists, communists, and fascists. They have no idea of the other side of issues.
Communism is a failed theory, as are socialism, and fascism. Each of them has destroyed itself in its own time. You cannot suppress people who do not think like you, look like you or act like you for ever. Eventually they wake up and realize they have been had.
Democracy, tho very imperfect, has succeeded since King John was forced to sign the Magna Carta. That was a long time ago. 1215!
You see BC and others like you, you are part of the majority as you keep harping at me. Okay I will agree. But the majority often inculcates mediocrity and lack of progress, because they perhaps have never recently even tried to understand others NOT like them. [Remember “Fox News North”? Which side were you on, BC, democracy or repression?]
And the sad thing is BC, that increasingly it is the minority who are becoming the ones shown to be right. But hey, man has been through the dark ages before and we may again. George Orwell’s 1984 is shaping up, sadly, to be more and more a prophecy of modern society.
Oh and thanks for the inspiration to write this BC!
Sometimes you can think you are way ahead of “others” when you are actually going in the wrong direction. It’s sort of like the tortoise and the hare, but the hare is running the wrong direction!